Kenyon Salo energizes and inspires us to take more risks, to get outside our comfort zones, and to create more experiences that impact others – living our “Bucket List Life.”
Kenyon is a professional athlete, adventurer, and skydiver with over 7000 jumps. He has been flying via parachute into Sports Authority Field at 60+ mph, ending with a soft tip-toe landing on the ten-yard line, for every Denver Broncos home game for the past 9 years as one of five members of the Denver Broncos Thunderstorm Skydive Team.
In his talks, he has a rare ability to capture and engage everyone in the room via his energy, his riveting storytelling, and even by creating content that delivers to each of the Four Color Personality Types by speaking to the core motives and natural talents that everyone experiences as human beings.
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Kenyon Salo: Say Yes To Your Bucket List Life. Pro Skydiver, Athlete And Adventurer Inspires!
Joining us is Kenyon Salo, who energizes and inspires us to take more risks, to get outside of our comfort zones and create more experiences that impact others, living your bucket list life. He’s a professional athlete, adventurer, a skydiver with over 6,000 jumps. He’s been flying via parachute into sports authority field at 60 plus miles per hour, ending with a soft tip to landing on the 10-yard line for every Denver Broncos’ home game for the past years as 1 of the 5 members of the Denver Broncos Thunderstorm Skydive Team. In his talks, he has a rare ability to capture and engage everyone in the room via his energy, storytelling and even by creating content that delivers to each of the four-color personality types by speaking to the core motives and natural talents that everyone experiences as human beings. Please join me with the simply awesome, Kenyon Salo.
Kenyon Salo, thank you for joining me on the show. How are you doing, sir?
I’m phenomenal. Life is good. Everything is rolling as it should. It’s great to be here. Thanks for having me on, Chris.
It’s been a while since we’ve talked. I know it’s been a crazy 2020 for everyone. I’m excited that we are in 2021. I know you are one of these speakers who I love because you’re so uplifting and inspirational. You always have a very positive outlook on everything. You have a lot of energy and a unique presentation. I was on the phone and somebody said, “There’s this speaker who we liked and he got up on a ladder. Do you know who that might be?” I said, “Yes, I know exactly who that is. Kenyon Salo goes up to the top of a ladder.” He said, “Somebody had seen him also and was petrified that he was going to fall.”Create more experiences, share more stories, and live more fulfilled by helping others first. Click To Tweet
It’s part of the act as they say. It’s pretty phenomenal to have that in the presentation as I connect with so many of the audience members. That particular section is always memorable. It’s one of those things that people see. They’re scared for me, for themselves, for audience members. Ultimately, what it comes down to is it’s a very safe presentation like if you were to bring in a fire act or a death-defying act. It’s never death-defying in reality. In reality, it’s safe. It’s fun to be able to do that and audiences have gotten great results from it because they see it, feel it in their hands, they’re nervous and they understand when I unpack what it’s all about. They go, “I get it.” That way, the learning is easy for the audience members. It’s like it immediately hits home and they’re like, “That makes sense to me.” It’s an easy way to deliver the concept so that the audience has a powerful takeaway, an a-ha moment.
What is that a-ha moment? What are you talking about when you’re at the very top of this 8-foot ladder?
It depends on the size of the ceiling I could do. I’ve done 3, 6. There was one event that I did where I was able to use a 16-foot ladder. I was on there with the rest of the stage. It seemed like I was 20 feet in the air. For me, a lot of times, I can’t see the audience. It’s just me there on the ladder. I do stand on that top step. What happens is there’s that moment in which the audience doesn’t think I’ll do it. I’m just going up the ladder. The ladder represents what we all go through in terms of making our dreams a reality. When you stand in front of the ladder, that’s your dream but your dream is just the thought.
You have to move to that next step which is like taking the first step on a ladder. That is making sure you have goals. You got to have your goals. The goals are like that timeline. From there, you have to plan. From there is action and that’s that middle part. We can all climb the center of a ladder. We’re good at it. The last part is that big part. It’s that step to reality. That’s the scariest part for a lot of people because there are signs out there. “Don’t do this. Don’t stand on this step or above this step. It could cause serious injury or death.” The ladder is a metaphor. I’m not asking audience members or anybody to do it. I’m just showing that that’s the actual step.
When you get up there, the very first time that I did that presentation where I saw this ladder in a hallway and I grabbed it. I made it up as I was going. I got to the top step and a woman yelled out, “Please get down from there. You’re making us all feel very uncomfortable.” I was like, “I don’t want to make my audience feel uncomfortable here.” What happened is I sat down on top of the ladder and said, “Let’s break this down.” I said, “How many of you are uncomfortable?” Lots of people raised their hands. The audience which is uncomfortable is my environment. I always say that your environment is stronger than your willpower. Meaning, you might want to do something in life but you can’t because your environment is saying, “Don’t do that.” For example, “Don’t start that new business, you’ll lose a lot of money. Don’t go into that relationship, you’ll break your heart. Don’t go skydiving.”
Not die. Many people think that’s the case and that’s what the audience yells out. It is the environment saying you can’t do these things. Ultimately, we can do these things in life but it comes down to the fact that we have to take that step.
That brings up two things I have to bring up. One is you jump out of airplanes. You skydive.
I do. It’s in my wheelhouse to stand on a ladder. I do skydive for a living, 7,000-plus skydives.
That’s exciting because for the sports fan out there, for people who love to go to outdoor events, we’ve all seen these guys jump out of planes, land on the parade or on the 50-yard line before the game starts. I didn’t realize that the Denver Broncos had a team of skydivers, just a few guys. You’re one of them. You jump out of the plane in good weather and land on the field before every single home game. That’s a big investment in everybody’s time and energy. I know it’s not completely easy to do. You must be practicing a lot. It must be fun. I hope you’re a Broncos fan.
I’m a huge Broncos fan. I’ve been doing this for years in the stadium. I’ve been skydiving for decades, 7,000 skydives and hundreds of jumps into the stadium itself. I’ve never come through the gates. I always have come from above and laying on the field. We stay for the games, which is amazing. We do it for the fans. Safety is paramount for sure that we have not had any incidences of any kind. We’ve always landed within the parameters of the field. We’re the only team that does it the way we do it. The military does it. They come in slow, land there and are on big parachutes.
We fly high-performance parachutes. It’s like parallel parking or a car at 50 miles an hour. We fly down the stands, make the turn and go down the field. We’re stopping right around between the 20-yard line and the end zone. There’s nothing after that. There’s a wall there. You got to make sure you don’t go into the wall. It is one of the favorite parts of most games for people especially people that bring their kids, families and they’ve seen it. They’re like, “Wait until you see the skydivers.” We love doing it for the fans. It’s a big thing. We enjoy it.
It’s the Denver Broncos Thunder Storm Skydive Team if you want to see some footage online. I’m sure that when they put in those new cameras that are on the wires that didn’t sit well with you guys. At first, you’re like, “Now, you’ve got us jumping through all these wires in the air.”
They brought in the cam cables and no one had done that before at all. They said, “Can you do it?” We looked at configurations because the cables are there. They can’t take down the wires prior, “Let us jump and put them back up.” What they had to do is they pulled the camera into the corner of the field, down on the field. That allowed this little triangle on the Northwest corner for us to dive through. You can’t just fly through it, you have to dive through the cables and then you come out underneath them. We know where they are but we can’t see them. We have to know where our spot is, find that spot and know the wires are around us. Sometimes, I’ll catch a glimpse at the last second. I’ll be like, “There goes the cable.” The only team that does that because of the abilities that the team has as a whole to be able to pull that off, that’s if the weather’s perfect. If there are some winds, swirling in the stadium or whatever other things are happening, that’s a challenge too.
You are pretty much an adventurous man. You also jump off cliffs and base jump but not buildings or also buildings. Do you jump off anything?
Base jumping is part of it, buildings, antennas, span, which is bridges and earth cliffs. Base jumping is part of the scenario. I have been brought in to do professional events and jump from buildings. I don’t do illegal jumps. I don’t have time for illegal jumps. I keep it all within the correct realm and it’s fun. That’s part of the sports I do. Adventure, skydiving, scuba diving, base jumping. Paragliding is something I picked up the summer during the pandemic. I said, “I’m going to learn how to do paragliding, outside hiking, enjoying the mountains and getting to fly.” Any particular way that I can enjoy the view of the world and do things that most won’t so that I can have what most can’t.
That brings me to the Bucket List Life, the thematic title of what you’re all about and your keynote. That’s something a lot of people like. When I say that then they go, “I like that.” It brings people out of their comfort zone and brings people out of their reality. They start thinking about like, what you said before with the ladder, goals and thoughts about, “What else have I not done that I was scared to do or that I wanted to do, I never got around to or that I still think I’d like to do?” You live in this thought process. You live in this like, “Why not? Let’s do it. Let’s live. Let’s get out there. Let’s not be afraid.” That’s why I like people like you because you bring a crowd out of their comfort zone.
I’ve heard many planners say, “This guy had more of a reaction from our audience than anybody’s had in years or anybody’s ever had.” People were not looking at their phones, not leaving early, not going to the bathroom. It was like a pin-drop focus on what this guy is saying, nonstop excitement and lots of engagement. You’re able to connect with people on all of these thoughts, ideas, exciting them about life. I hope that that transfers into their lives and you hear about it afterward that you changed some lives, that you affected people to take these risks because that’s what you’re all about.
The concept of the Bucket List Life is very paramount to the fact of where people are at. The things that I trained from the stage were three very simple concepts. Create more experiences, share more stories and live more fulfilled by helping others first. What happens is we all have that dream or the idea of what we want to do especially during the pandemic, things like, “What are we going to do when this thing is over?” If someone said, “It’s completely over,” but you have to go do that thing that you were nervous about doing, didn’t want to say yes to because I say yes and let the how to figure itself out later. I don’t have all the answers. Nobody does. A lot of us want to say no, easier to be like, “Not me. Not now. I don’t have the time, the money. I have responsibilities,” or they have generally fear.
What it comes down to is when you say yes and let the how to figure itself out later, everything works out. That’s what I speak about from stage because these three areas are key to their personal and professional lives. We can create more experiences first because that is like the bucket list items, “How do we create more experiences?” An experience doesn’t have to be jumping out of a plane. It can be like, “I want to travel to Italy and see the Mona Lisa. I want to watch my son get married one day. I want to walk my daughter down the aisle. I want to enjoy a nice glass of wine on the French Riviera.” Whatever it is for you, that’s something that can be super exciting. You can put that on your bucket list. It’s about saying yes like “I’m going to say yes and make it happen.” The thing is people will say yes but then they won’t do it.
When I challenged them with a timeline, like, “Go ahead and do that thing within the next twelve months,” they’re like, “I don’t know if I can do it in twelve months.” There are people that only have twelve days to live that would kill for twelve months. We think we’re all going to end up on the rocking chair at the end of our lives, on the porch. It’s going to be great. I want that for everybody. Unfortunately, that’s not the case. Some of us don’t have a tomorrow. That’s what puts us all on a level playing field. It doesn’t matter whether I jump out of airplanes or you drive super safe to work. We’re all on the same playing field. None of us knows if we have a tomorrow. We just have to take advantage of today. That’s the first section, which is creating experiences. That’s where I think it’s powerful. It’s a little on the edge of the seat for the audience because they’re not just scared because they’re seeing something, they’re a little nervous because they’re like, “I’m going to have to say yes to this thing that I’ve always wanted to do but I don’t know if I’m ready.”
The second section is what?
Share more stories. That naturally rolls into it. If you think about that last thing that you did that you enjoyed, most of the time the stories people are sharing are the ones that they’re like, “I didn’t imagine I would ever do that thing.” Then what happens is people share stories, knowledge and information. That’s in the workplace too. If you have a new employee come into the workplace and you have a long-time veteran employee, who’s going to be training who? They help each other, pass the stories back and forth. That sharing more stories is about creating that connection, that bond. It’s about friends and family.
You see experiences about self. “What do I want to do? What do I want to see? How do I want to experience the world.” Sharing more stories is about friends and family. It is the glue that bonds us together. That’s how we get to know people. Whether you talk to someone that’s sitting next to you on an airplane and start to have that conversation, they could become your best friend or business partner. You never know.
The third section is?
Helping others. It’s living more fulfilled by helping others first. That’s why I believe we’re on the planet. When we help others first, without the expectation of return, everything comes back tenfold every time. I lived those three things in authenticity. From the stage and off the stage that authenticity is what the audience gets because I’m not speaking about something that I don’t know about and live 365 days a year.
I remember there’s a cool moment where in your video, Batman gets up to the outside of a hospital window and taps on the window with a kid. Tell me that that story. That was you.
I was not in the bat suit. That was the Aurora SWAT team that I’ve been hired to wear these costumes but it’s not about that. The story itself is about Holly, who had just overcome cancer. I said, “Holly, what’s on your bucket list?” She said, “I want to see superheroes on the outside of the children’s hospital.” I was like, “Yes.” I didn’t know how it was going to happen. I didn’t know anybody at the children’s hospital but over the course of 60 emails, 60 days later, 60 people showed up on top of the Helipad of the children’s hospital, all combined to help the team effort of bringing superheroes down the side of the hospital for these kids.
Some of these kids never left the hospital. Their families still share about it. Some of these kids did leave and they tell their friends and family, “I saw a superhero outside my window.” Unfortunately, Holly passed away two years later after this. Her sister continues to share this message on social media. I continue to share the video with every event that I go to impact lives. That’s the journey because that in itself, the living more fulfilled by helping others is about community. It is about how we impact the world, how we’re going to make a difference and the legacy that we live. That starts with what we’re going to do within our local community, what we’re going to do on the work level, in that professional environment and then what we can all do together to make that difference. That’s how the keynote itself flows from this adventure edge of the seat to these a-ha moments to these deep feelings that they have. I bring them out, I lead them on a super high note where we all get together as a group and they’re just laughing. We ended on a super high note and everybody walks out of the room going, “I’m going to say yes to life. This is it. This is what I needed. I’m ready.”
I know you’re very successful at that because the reviews are awesome for you every time you speak. One thing I thought was interesting when I first met you was that you’d done so much research on people and you have a good knowledge of how to present to people. One of the things I was hoping to have you explain a little bit was also this analysis of what types of people are in the audience and how you deliver a little bit of something to each type of personality in the audience so they all get something. It’s not just something that only the type A personality is going to like or other personalities are like. Tell us a little bit about that process and what you do.
This is one of my favorite parts of it because it’s breaking down the success and it’s like, “Why is Apple successful? Why is Disney successful? We break it all down. There are so many different reasons.” For me, I knew I was coming to the table strong as communication. I could deliver. I can speak I knew that was there but then I had to take a look at the industry. This is in 2015. I said, “I’m going to make my move into being a keynote trainer facilitator. What’s the industry doing well? What are they missing? Where can I fill a void? Would that be that a-ha surprise to the industry where they’re like, ‘We haven’t seen this before. This is exciting.” Standing on top of a ladder is part of that.Instead of focusing on you, focus on others and see what that brings for you. Click To Tweet
I broke it down very simply from all the things I’ve studied in my life. There are so many different personality-type systems out there. I picked the one that worked for me. It was very simple, which was the color code, reds, yellows, blues and whites. There are leaders, family people, fun people and data people. We’re all predominantly one but we’re not the only ones. We have a few other things but we have what we prefer. I said to myself, “What would be the best scenario? Let’s create a keynote that hits all four of those.” First and foremost, I had to choose two that I was going to give a little more focus on. Those two areas were family or the blues and fun, the yellows. That’s authentic to me. I love family, friends, having fun. If I come from a place of being authentic then I will always deliver super well.
There is some stuff for the reds, for the leadership and there is some data in there for the whites. Fortunately, the data is always the smallest amount in any audience. It usually works out quite well in that regard. Most of the time, the blues and yellows are at the top of the audience. There are certain events that I am not applying for and that’s okay. For the general, all company events, the HR department or those scenarios where they’re bringing people together and the conference is all about connecting, networking and that like, “This is our once-a-year celebration.” I’m either an opener or closer and it’s brilliant. I focused on those areas.
The other thing was I wanted to make sure that there was visual content, auditory content, this feeling kinesthetic content. That is sprinkled throughout. I believe that in each part of the phase, there’s the opening, three concepts and the closing. There are connection points all along the way for the audience members. They walk out of there going, “I feel like he got me. I feel like I enjoyed that.” I want to leave the audience with that feeling. They’re happy they attended.
Have you always been a happy connector, somebody who’s been very vibrant about life and always said yes to everything? Has this always been your mantra?
We teach what we need to learn most. While I say yes all the time, there are times I was like, “I don’t want to do that thing.” Sometimes my girlfriend would be like, “Let’s go for a hike.” I’d be like, “Look how cold it is outside, this or that or the clouds.” She gets me out the door. Next thing, I’m up the mountain and I’m standing there going, “This is beautiful.” I never get home and say, “I wish I didn’t.” There are times where I’ve been home and I’m like, “I wonder if I did.” The answer is predominantly I do say yes. I am happy all the time. If I’m not happy I’m level. I don’t like to be below level. I’m just level like, “You’re quiet now.” “I’m just level.” I prefer being excited about life, things, people and what’s happening. It seems to be easier that way.
It makes sense that a guy like you likes to get out there, expound a lot of energy and do things that take a lot of energy, cause and create exhilaration. When was the first time you decided you were going to do something crazy? I know you think it’s not crazy. Most people think it’s a little crazy to jump out of an airplane. When was the first time you decided to jump off a cliff where you hooked? Are you an adrenaline junkie? Is that what they call people like you? What is it?
In my teens and twenties, you could have called it an adrenaline junkie but I go back to a kid when I got my first BMX. It was a piece of plywood and a bunch of 2×4 and like “Can I jump over this trash can?” at six years old. It was at a young age that I was always looking at things but I was also curious how things worked. Throughout my life, it was professional snowboarding and skydiving. I was jumping off of a small clip into the river without a parachute at the local swimming hole as a kid to eventually being like, “You can put a parachute on a jump off a 400-foot cliff? I’m in. Count me in.” Everything and every risk are calculated. I’m doing everything I can to put the safety margin in my favor. I have said no when the safety margin is not in my favor. I say, “This is not worth the risk.” I look at everything and said, “This is not worth it.” The safety margin is not in my favor, I’ll say, “I’ll come back another day.”
There’s got to be a mindset difference. I know you try and spread this to people who don’t have this mindset or don’t look at things that way. What is it about your peers in this industry and the people you jump out of the planes with? Are they just having a better life? Are they living more completely than the rest of us? Are they having more fun? Are they less serious? What’s the differentiating factor between these kinds of people and the rest of us?
Ultimately, we all only have one life. We know that. The deal is that we all get to choose what our experience is in this life. Whatever that experience is, I will celebrate that person for what they’ve chosen. If someone says, “I want to have six kids and families. It’s my number one thing.” Amazing. Go for it. That’s something I celebrate. If someone wants to work 80-hours a week and they’re going to impact and change the world through their entrepreneurship, great. Amazing. I celebrate that. What’s hard for me is when I see people or individuals who say, “I wish I could. I want to, one day, maybe that will happen. I’m too old for that.” I went scuba diving with my 72-year-old mom. She got me into scuba diving. It wasn’t like, “I was your mom. You should try it.” She was like, “I want to go diving with you.”
She got me into scuba diving at the age of 70 at the time. Now, she’s 72 and she’s still diving and we’ve been with the family. It is that wishing you had a scenario that frustrates me. The very first time I jumped out of a plane, the door opened up this little Cessna and another jumper jumped out. I was holding on to the pilot’s seat. I was holding on like, “What if I fall out of the plane?” which is the point. It shows that on my very first skydive I was like anybody else. I was like, “This is some serious stuff here.” I went to what I had been taught. “Put one hand out, one foot out, other hand out, other foot out, do the count, up, down, arch, exit.” Next thing you know, I’m skydiving. I had been given the tools to be able to do my first skydive, not jump into a stadium. I had been given the tools to do one skydive successfully with two jump masters holding onto me like training wheels. There was this 60-year-old woman smiling at me through her helmet. I was like, “She can do it. I definitely can figure this out.” You have to push yourself. Say yes. What happens is you’re like, “I did that. What if I could do this?” That’s how people step up the ladder.
It seems like there’s a message that I’ve heard that comes from people, like you and successful people where there are a lot of failures and fear but breaking through that can be the scariest thing you ever do. When you get through it and you get past it, it’s often something that transforms your life forever and you say, “I’m glad I got through that. I didn’t succumb to the fear, the pressure that I was putting myself under to succeed. I have to be the best at this. Try it do it and enjoy life a little bit. That’s who you are. You’re the enjoy life guy. Say yes, enjoy yourself, take some risks and spread the love. It will come back to you. I love that piece as well.
A guy like you coming out of the pandemic where we are heading into a new world. It’s going to be changed a little bit forever. What’s your outlook for all of us? I’m sure you’re the guy who a lot of your friends look to for being the light and the optimistic one in their lives. I’m sure you see a lot of people who have to succumb to the depression and the fear of this pandemic. What does a guy like you say to your friends and to yourself about where we are right now and where we’re headed?
It comes down to the fact that we are all taking this one day at a time. If we all think about the fact that sometimes way back when, before COVID, let’s say you got sick and you were down and out for 5 or 6 days. Those days seemed like the longest thing on the planet. All of a sudden, you’re better again. You came out of it. You’re like, “I feel 100%.” You’re doing all the things that you would normally do. If you look back at it, it seems like a blip on the radar. I do believe that’s the same for this scenario. I look at this scenario as what is the opportunity with what we’re giving? First and foremost, we must be safe for ourselves, friends, family. We must protect those around us. When we do and we focus on that, then we say, “What can we do with what we’re given?” This is much longer than any of us thought. We were like, “It’s a couple of weeks. Maybe a couple of months. Through the summer.” Now we’re coming up on a year. I said, “What are the possibilities and opportunities for me?”
First was making sure that I can still deliver the message that I have to as many people as possible and impact as many lives as possible. While the game has changed, that’s going to be virtual. I made sure that the virtual delivery of my product and service is top-notch so that the clients and the attendees get the best experience they can through this virtual world. I will do that as long as needed until one day when someone says, “We have a stage for you to be on and it’s a live event.” Excellent. We will do this hybrid version for everybody. Eventually, it will be business as usual. We’ll all look back and go, “Memories of the pandemic. Food, that was a thing. In the grand scheme of things, it’s going to seem like a drop in the bucket. The whole world has experienced it. From an experience standpoint, it’s a shared experience. Second, we have stories. Everybody’s got pandemic stories and how it’s affected them in some way. Third, we all know the good that the planet has done by helping others through this pandemic. Isn’t that the Bucket List Life? That’s exactly what I teach. Create more experiences, share more stories, live more fulfilled by helping others. It’s happening in real-time.
You’ve got to have come across a couple of people who are down and out. Do you tell them to take it day by day? Do you tell them to look at what can you do? What else do you say to somebody who’s going through it that you could tell needs your words of wisdom and your support?
It comes back to the Bucket List Life. Anybody that’s down and out, they’re stuck, in a rut, “I don’t know what to do.” They can do 1 of those 3 things. Creating experience seems like one but for a lot of people, that’s challenging to be able to go live when they don’t feel like they’re alive at the moment. The stories are happening but they’re always sharing their stories of why it’s challenging for them. Most individuals in that scenario includes me when I bend down, I find that the natural thing for us to do is we want to help others. It says that the minute you go out to help another human being, you stop thinking about yourself. As you help others, you start looking outward. It fills you up, you start to feel alive, excited about life, seeing the joy in others, that brings joy to you. It’s this continuum effect. All of a sudden, someone’s like, “Do you want to go skydiving? You’re like, “I do.” There it goes. Instead of focusing on you, focus on others and see what that brings for you.
Your presentations are so filled with energy and excitement that they go by quickly. I’ve heard people say that too. We started. It’s already been the amount of time I normally spend with people. You have a lot of energy, love and passion for the world and for others. That’s the beautiful thing about you. Every time we get on the phone, it’s exciting and fun. Every time I have somebody who’s excited about you as a speaker, I know it’s going to be a home run, I get excited about that as well. It’s been great knowing you, getting to know you and being able to show people a guy like you because there are not many guys like you. There’s a lot of inspirational speakers, a lot of people uplift audiences but you do it differently.
There’s just something different about you. It’s probably because you’re out there doing real stuff. You’re not just on the ladder. You’re out there living life and jumping out of planes. You’re living this exhilarated existence. It’s fun to have people tap into that and get that rubbing off on them a little bit when we can do that for them. I know you’ve said some amazing things but is there anything that is on your mind that you would want to leave us with as a parting thought?
I want every individual to take that thing that they’ve wanted to do. That bucket list item whether it’s travel, a single day experience or something that they said, “I’m ready to start.” Maybe it’s even writing a book. Whatever it is for somebody, I want you to say yes. Let the how to figure itself out later. Start that next step of setting goals. I want people to take it out of the dream format and put it into a goal format. From there, things will start to happen and unfold and have that success. There’s no need to wait. You can learn, do and experience the world starting now.
What’s that old saying, “When you follow your passion, doors will open that you didn’t even know were there before.”
They just start opening people, you meet people. They’re like, “I do that too.” You’re like, ‘No way.”
You are a breath of fresh air and it’s always so fun talking to you. Thanks so much, Kenyon. This has been awesome. I look forward to working with you very soon on the next event. Let’s make it great.
Thanks so much for having me, Chris.
I’ll talk to you soon.